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	<title>Comments on: Garden Yeats</title>
	<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/</link>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-399</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-399</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you’re already logged in (so that you see the logout link), clicking the “site admin” link takes you straight in.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh. I thought it had something to do with the administration or administrator of the site. Silly user I am.

&lt;i&gt;Making the archives/categories collapsible will take some time, though.&lt;/i&gt;

Have you noticed the pace of this board? There are no hurries here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you’re already logged in (so that you see the logout link), clicking the “site admin” link takes you straight in.</i></p>
<p>Oh. I thought it had something to do with the administration or administrator of the site. Silly user I am.</p>
<p><i>Making the archives/categories collapsible will take some time, though.</i></p>
<p>Have you noticed the pace of this board? There are no hurries here.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-398</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-398</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I press both login and logout(?) just to log in&lt;/i&gt;

What's this? What do you mean? If you're already logged in (so that you see the logout link), clicking the "site admin" link takes you straight in. No need to logout and log back in, if that's what you've been doing. I will definitely work on the site when I get a chance. I can't do much from here at work, but I'll try to steal some time next week. Making the archives/categories collapsible will take some time, though. That will require me to learn some extra scripting - particularly if you want it to work on browsers like MS Internet Explorer. I'm not so good with the dynamic presentation stuff. But I'll see what I can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I press both login and logout(?) just to log in</i></p>
<p>What&#8217;s this? What do you mean? If you&#8217;re already logged in (so that you see the logout link), clicking the &#8220;site admin&#8221; link takes you straight in. No need to logout and log back in, if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve been doing. I will definitely work on the site when I get a chance. I can&#8217;t do much from here at work, but I&#8217;ll try to steal some time next week. Making the archives/categories collapsible will take some time, though. That will require me to learn some extra scripting - particularly if you want it to work on browsers like MS Internet Explorer. I&#8217;m not so good with the dynamic presentation stuff. But I&#8217;ll see what I can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-397</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-397</guid>
		<description>Come to think of it, since I press both &lt;i&gt;login&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;logout&lt;/i&gt;(?) just to log in to post stuff, let's just have a big kindergarten-sized button that says &lt;i&gt;Sing, O Muse!&lt;/i&gt; somewhere near the top of the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it, since I press both <i>login</i> and <i>logout</i>(?) just to log in to post stuff, let&#8217;s just have a big kindergarten-sized button that says <i>Sing, O Muse!</i> somewhere near the top of the page.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-396</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-396</guid>
		<description>Actually, now that you mention it...
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;I'd like to be able to click on the &lt;i&gt;Mind of Winter&lt;/i&gt; banner and be taken to the main page. I don't use the &lt;i&gt;home&lt;/i&gt; link.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I'd like it if the &lt;i&gt;login&lt;/i&gt; link that I &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; use were where the &lt;i&gt;home&lt;/i&gt; link that I &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; use is now.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It might be nice if the &lt;i&gt;Archives&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Categories&lt;/i&gt; tables could expand and collapse. I think they ought to be there, but I don't think they get much mileage.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

I believe the order of handiness regarding the sidebar is
&lt;ol&gt; &lt;li&gt;Comments box --- awesome&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Login link --- can't post without it&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Search --- because you might want to find something&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;And the rest --- are here on Gilligan's Isle.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, now that you mention it&#8230;</p>
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<li>I&#8217;d like to be able to click on the <i>Mind of Winter</i> banner and be taken to the main page. I don&#8217;t use the <i>home</i> link.</li>
<li>I&#8217;d like it if the <i>login</i> link that I <b>do</b> use were where the <i>home</i> link that I <b>never</b> use is now.</li>
<li>It might be nice if the <i>Archives</i> and <i>Categories</i> tables could expand and collapse. I think they ought to be there, but I don&#8217;t think they get much mileage.</li>
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<p>I believe the order of handiness regarding the sidebar is</p>
<ol>
<li>Comments box &#8212; awesome</li>
<li>Login link &#8212; can&#8217;t post without it</li>
<li>Search &#8212; because you might want to find something</li>
<li>And the rest &#8212; are here on Gilligan&#8217;s Isle.</li>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-395</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-395</guid>
		<description>Just below the calendar on the left (way down due to the long list of categories and archive dates), there is an "other" section. If you are logged in, it will give you two options: (1)logout, and (2) site admin. The "site admin" link allows you to do any/all the stuff you are authorized to do---writing new posts, editing old posts, creating categories, etc. If you are not logged in, that's where you'll find the login link.

Your general point is well taken, though. The site design is rather poor. I threw it together far too quickly and have never really had time to clean it up. Plus, I'm not a great designer. I can put the login links wherever you'd like, and I suppose I can change the link text as well (though not until next week when I return from Minneapolis)---where would you like them, and how would you like them to appear?

More generally still, any suggestions are always welcome. In fact, if you'd like to play around with the site design, I can probably create a test site and authorize anyone to change the files to test design changes (alternatively, you can edit local style files pretty easily, particularly if you use Firefox---ask if you want details). If you're wanting to test your design talents, I'd be happy to enable you.

Finally, if you see some ready-packaged design you'd like us to use, we can do that, too. There are a zillion &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#38;q=WordPress+Themes" rel="nofollow"&gt;ready-to-use themes for WordPress&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just below the calendar on the left (way down due to the long list of categories and archive dates), there is an &#8220;other&#8221; section. If you are logged in, it will give you two options: (1)logout, and (2) site admin. The &#8220;site admin&#8221; link allows you to do any/all the stuff you are authorized to do&#8212;writing new posts, editing old posts, creating categories, etc. If you are not logged in, that&#8217;s where you&#8217;ll find the login link.</p>
<p>Your general point is well taken, though. The site design is rather poor. I threw it together far too quickly and have never really had time to clean it up. Plus, I&#8217;m not a great designer. I can put the login links wherever you&#8217;d like, and I suppose I can change the link text as well (though not until next week when I return from Minneapolis)&#8212;where would you like them, and how would you like them to appear?</p>
<p>More generally still, any suggestions are always welcome. In fact, if you&#8217;d like to play around with the site design, I can probably create a test site and authorize anyone to change the files to test design changes (alternatively, you can edit local style files pretty easily, particularly if you use Firefox&#8212;ask if you want details). If you&#8217;re wanting to test your design talents, I&#8217;d be happy to enable you.</p>
<p>Finally, if you see some ready-packaged design you&#8217;d like us to use, we can do that, too. There are a zillion <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=WordPress+Themes" rel="nofollow">ready-to-use themes for WordPress</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-394</link>
		<author>Ethan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-394</guid>
		<description>My favorite boy meets girl poem from Yeats is:

&lt;blockquote class="verse"&gt;
&lt;h3 class="poemtitle"&gt;No Second Troy&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 class="byline"&gt;by W.B. Yeats&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p class="stanza"&gt;
WHY should I blame her that she filled my days
With misery, or that she would of late
Have taught to ignorant men most violent ways,
Or hurled the little streets upon the great,
Had they but courage equal to desire?
What could have made her peaceful with a mind
That nobleness made simple as a fire,
With beauty like a tightened bow, a kind
That is not natural in an age like this,
Being high and solitary and most stern?
Why, what could she have done being what she is?
Was there another Troy for her to burn?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would have posted this properly, but I have forgotten where I go to post. Simply can't find it. Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite boy meets girl poem from Yeats is:</p>
<blockquote class="verse">
<h3 class="poemtitle">No Second Troy</h3>
<h4 class="byline">by W.B. Yeats</h4>
<p class="stanza">
WHY should I blame her that she filled my days<br />
With misery, or that she would of late<br />
Have taught to ignorant men most violent ways,<br />
Or hurled the little streets upon the great,<br />
Had they but courage equal to desire?<br />
What could have made her peaceful with a mind<br />
That nobleness made simple as a fire,<br />
With beauty like a tightened bow, a kind<br />
That is not natural in an age like this,<br />
Being high and solitary and most stern?<br />
Why, what could she have done being what she is?<br />
Was there another Troy for her to burn?
</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I would have posted this properly, but I have forgotten where I go to post. Simply can&#8217;t find it. Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-393</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 14:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-393</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yeats is small potatoes...&lt;/i&gt;

You're just saying that because he was Irish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yeats is small potatoes&#8230;</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re just saying that because he was Irish.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-392</link>
		<author>Michael</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mindofwinter.org/2005/08/06/garden-yeats/#comment-392</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s probably my favorite boy-meets-girl-loses-same poem.&lt;/i&gt;

You're just saying that because you haven't heard &lt;i&gt;I'm Like Yeah, But She's All No&lt;/i&gt; by the &lt;a href="http://www.mtxstarship.com/index.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mr. T Experience&lt;/a&gt;. Yeats is small potatoes when it comes to lyrics about boys failing in relationships with girls; Dr. Frank and the MTX will change your perspective on the matter. I personally guarantee it.

"Boy meets girl. Girl teases boy. Boy looks for something to destroy..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s probably my favorite boy-meets-girl-loses-same poem.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re just saying that because you haven&#8217;t heard <i>I&#8217;m Like Yeah, But She&#8217;s All No</i> by the <a href="http://www.mtxstarship.com/index.asp" rel="nofollow">Mr. T Experience</a>. Yeats is small potatoes when it comes to lyrics about boys failing in relationships with girls; Dr. Frank and the MTX will change your perspective on the matter. I personally guarantee it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Boy meets girl. Girl teases boy. Boy looks for something to destroy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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